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Anatomy Studies I. by scopsowlpost Anatomy Studies I. by scopsowlpost
Ok, some of the faces/heads did not turn out well. As well as some of the postures and all that. X'D I am very aware of that, but I was more focused on sketching out the body. I should have put all my focus into that, and not even have sketched out faces, and just made the head a simple form.

I am incredibly thankful to the provider of the stock: :iconkxhara: Her gallery is amazing. :D I will keep practicing with your stock! Someday I will have to redo these. ^u^

Medium: Ink. (Sharpie pen, and Faber Castell Shades of Grey markers.) (No pencils, so couldn't erase anyways for mistakes)

PS: haha I just looked at this uploaded. And I really need to focus on getting the posture correct!!!! Sorry about that! These were all just quickly sketched at a time. Maybe 15 minutes tops for each sketch.
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these are excellent practice! Repetition of the form can really give you an idea of how it works in 3D.
It's unfortunate that I haven't had time to re-paint my floor grid so that you could use it for perspective help. Grounding the figure in reality (even just a grid to represent a floor / walls) can really help with proportion and anatomy in perspective because you get a sense of distance, even short distances.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting the faces exact if these are just gesture studies. the emphasis should be on basic form, proportion and getting the figure out in a reasonable amount of time. (I stuggle with moving on on studies, I always want to go back and fix mistakes, but we should really focus on moving on and studying new stuff instead of obsessing of little past mistakes)

(ignore stars, I don't star studies and WIPs)
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You have good discipline to take the time to practice this many different poses when most like to spend their time creating a piece - efforts like this will definitely pay off to make your pieces alot better. its totally worth it. good for you for taking the time to do it. It reminds me I have to do the same thing, stop trying to create pieces always and take some time to do more studies. Also you used pen which is interesting for a study, perhaps did you want to force yourself to be very accurate the first time you make a line? My rough sketches are wild and I would not be able to come up with something this clean during a study.
My suggestion to improve your studies is to get a biology or workout book, or go to a site that shows the actual muscles of the body. Everyone's body is different and sometimes a lean persons body can be mysterious as to where exactly the muscles come together. If you learn basically where the muscles are on any body you can draw more from your imagination and without a reference and be expressive/creative with the size and shape of the body because you will know the general rules. Here it seems like you have a good eye for seeing the basic outline of the reference but if you dont study the rules of the body and the muscles, then you will need to rely on references more and it can slow you down in your art. Also, I would recommend doing studies of people with less 'ideal' figures - even if your intention is to only draw people with 'perfect' bodies - for me I find the drawing many different shape and size bodies is very rewarding with what you learn and lends more reality to your art. That's not a criticism only a suggestion. It depends on your style of art whether you will want to add shadows or not, but adding light and shadows will bring out depth and can help you out when the lines don't say enough on their own - like when things are foreshortened.
maybe try feet, hands and heads in their own separate studies if you dont want to spend alot of time on them in your whole body studies. Looks like you got the perspective right. I wouldnt say anything I've said here is to improve this practice in particular but just advice in general for yourself, me also, and anyone wanting to get better at mastering anatomy.
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Wamu Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
main problems are, the hands are somewhat small compared to the face, the poses look rigid, try to separate a little bit the angle of the arms from the body, also in some of the drawings the head is a little small. Try to get your hand loosed up before drawing do random circles or gesture drawings first then the drawing come out more fluid.... keep it up :) also its great you are using sharpies or markers , those are great for fast gesture drawings , there´s a website called posemaniacs that is really good and another one called pixelovely for getting random poses ....
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much for this! I know this is kinda old now but any advice is useful. I mean, I didn't do my best with these and should have focused on the gesture of the pose. But I have gotten so many good comments that are helping me learn better because of it. ; u ; So thanks! And thanks for the resources!!!
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Wamu Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
no problem ... we all have always something to improve
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ChiakiNeko Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012   General Artist
Yay good for you!! :D Full body is difficult, but you're doing a good job. The anatomy isn't exactly consistent, but I can tell that you're atleast learning the general shape of the body, so it's ok. It might help to draw horizontal guidelines at certain parts of the body (the top and bottom of the head, the shoulders, the tip of the hand, the elbow, the hip, the knees, the feet, etc), atleast temporarily, so you can practice the anatomy better.

Alsoo the DA community supports you! Keep it up ^^
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
: D Thank you for saying that. I really was rushing through these. I almost wish I didn't post them. But I have received such good advice since I took the risk of putting sloppy sketches up. ^u^

Thank you for the support and advice! : )
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ChiakiNeko Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012   General Artist
Haha no problem! I think these serve as a good example for other artists to practice more! :D and it's true you did receive a lot of good feedback. Honestly, being on DA, in and of itself, is taking a risk : P

You're welcome~
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RedWolf246 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012
rw:good sketch.
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks! I'll do better next time. :D
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RedWolf246 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012
rw:no prob
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Kynamh Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, these are... overly nice critiques. I support practice, you should practice, more. Seriously. And I don't mean to be disparaging.

Something that occurs to me is that in laying out the poses, you are focusing too much on the outline of the figure, and not the core layout. When figure drawing, it helps to first draw the basic movement of the pose, then you create the structure with a skeleton, start mapping where the joints are in the body, and then you work on building the muscle shapes, literally fleshing it out.

Also, there are basic proportions to the human body. You should memorize these to help guide you as you draw. Not all bodies are perfect, so you are allowed some leeway, but there are certain generalizations that will help keep your figures from being too-leggy or have too small of a head for their body, etc.

I would definitely suggest finding a good anatomy book. References are wonderful.
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha, they were really too nice, but appreciated. :D

And thank you for saying that. I do need to practice A LOT. I know these weren't my absolute best.

That second paragraph was great advice. I sometimes do gestural drawings, which would kind of be like the skeletal sketch in a way. But I need to learn to combine that with actually creating and building the form. But yeah, what you just said will help a lot.

Would those basic proportions be in an anatomy book? I could just google them for now. I do have my eye on this one anatomy book on amazon. I really need to get that.

And thank you for your comment. It is greatly appreciated. I need some critiques that confront the things that are interfering with my potential to improve. I didn't think I'd ever get a comment that was so straight forward and direct like yours. :D So thank you. I really appreciate what you said here.
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Kynamh Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There are some Anatomy For The Artist books that spell out the different measurements but the most important thing to remember is the Head. The Head is the basic unit of measurement. Shoulders are generally 3 Heads wide, an adult body is between 7.5 and 8 Heads tall. Other key things to note where the elbows align with the ribs when the arms hang straight down. Same goes for the hips and the hands.

If you haven't done one before take the time to actually draw a full skeleton at least once so you can better see how everything connects. I'd say joints are especially important to pay attention to.
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cool! That is something they tell you in how-to manga books. To measure by the head. We used to use units of measurements in drawing class years and years ago. So I'll just have to make it a habit to measure everything out. (But it's a pain to keep using your pencil to measure, and closing your eye. I will have to embrace that. haha)

Ok, I will definitely draw a skeleton! That keeps coming up a lot in the advice I receive.

Do you ever do gestural sketches? The point of those is to just get the movement and feeling of a pose right? I know they are very loosely drawn. But I haven't really understood their purpose that well. XD

And those measurements you gave are really going to be helpful.

If there is anything else I need to know, I would be happy to hear more from you. ^^ I literally have been avoiding drawing people until recently. ^^;
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Kynamh Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I do gestural drawings, yes. They are great warm ups, and the more you play with them, the easier it is to create more dynamic poses. Starting out, most people draw very rigid characters. I still struggle with this at times, but starting out with a gesture is a sound beginning to a good drawing. It really helps with image composition.

I have a livestream account that I haven't touched in a while (been too busy) but if we have compatible schedules, I can log in sometime and SHOW you some stuff, and you can ask me questions while I demonstrate.

I'm definitely a sketch artist, I struggle with inking and coloring, and I can't really paint except digitally, and only then with tons of references. But I do know some basics and I try to stick to them. It really helps. My biggest problem is impatience. It's hard to keep me working on a piece to eek out the best results, I tend to want to jump to new things all the time.

Glad I can be of some help. :)
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am in the Eastern Time Zone for the US. As I am posting this, it is 3:50 PM. But do I need a livestream to ask questiosn? And is it ok if I just type them to you? haha

If you want you can do a video of how you make the skeletal/gestural sketch to catch the pose. Just so I can see how people do that for a pose. I kinda get it. I guess I just really need to draw that skeleton first. xD

I often find myself rushing through things lately. Like studies have been rushed. But I have just begun studies. This is my first real study. haha But I still have a lot of things to learn. Like those basics you're talking about. Proportions... Gotta memorize them. But I am determined to improve. :D

Thank you for all the help! :hug:
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chclaudino Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
hi scopsowlpost, I made an sketch to explain how do you start the anatomy figure see here [link] I used the first figure of the third sequence that you did.

I hope it help you in your studies!

(sorry for my English!) : )
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D Hi! Thank you so much! That little tip was very helpful! Do you actually imagine the skeleton when you do those beginning sketches, or do you just draw the simplified shapes of her body so you have an idea of where everything goes? Just to clear that up. :3 If I need to study skeletons, I should start that right away! :D

And this is going to help me a lot in my studies. :D And your English wasn't bad at all! ^u^
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chclaudino Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Hi and you´re welcome, a plesure to help!

always imagine the shapes of the skeleton to be sure which are the muscles and the overall shape of the figure.
I use a simplification of the skeleton to draw faster.

If you need more help just ask and I will try to help! ;)
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D Ok, thanks a bunch! I will definitely ask for help/advice in the future! ^.^ I'm sure I'll have questions at some point.
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StewCrowther Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hello There.
I just wanted to say well done.
Keep up the good work!
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scopsowlpost Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D Hiya!

Thank you so much! All the support is really encouraging me to do another something like this, very soon.

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